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Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do you know why does Bitco...

Last post by ferrddy - Oct 13, 2026, 06:37 PM

I think Jumpman hit the nail on the head here, and it's worth sitting with that for a second because it cuts through a lot of the noise.

The dollar has value because people believe it has value, and that belief is reinforced by the fact that the government requires it for taxes, the military gets paid in it, and the largest economy on earth denominates everything in it. That's not nothing — it's a very real foundation. But it's still belief. When that belief erodes, the value goes. We've seen it happen, slowly but surely, with every round of quantitative easing.

Bitcoin is the same in structure but opposite in source. Nobody requires you to accept it. No government backs it. No army enforces it. The value comes from the fact that someone, somewhere, decided they'd rather hold it than whatever else they had, and then someone else made the same call, and then someone else again. That's the market request part — it's not theoretical, it's not promised, it's just the sum of every person who looked at it and said yes, I'd rather have this.

The interesting thing is that Bitcoin doesn't need universal belief to work. It just needs enough people who believe strongly enough to keep holding, keep mining, keep building. That's a much higher bar than what the dollar needs — the dollar only needs most people to believe passively. Bitcoin needs its believers to be active. They have to run nodes, secure keys, verify transactions. That's a much thinner foundation in terms of raw numbers, but it's a much more committed one.

And that's why the decentralization point from Italian Panic ties into it. When the value is backed by people rather than governments, it can't be withdrawn by decree. A government can say the dollar is worthless. It can't say Bitcoin is worthless — it can try to ban it, but the network keeps running. That's not a philosophical claim. That's what happened in 2021 in El Salvador, and it's what happened in Nigeria, and in Turkey, and in a dozen other places where people stopped waiting for their governments to make money worth something.

The demand isn't abstract. It's the observable fact that people in high-inflation countries are moving into Bitcoin faster than people in low-inflation countries, and the ones doing it aren't speculators — they're people protecting savings, sending remittances, keeping money that would otherwise be gone. That's the market request, and it's the strongest argument there is for why Bitcoin has value and why it'll keep having it.

#72

Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is better Bitcoin pure ado...

Last post by ferrddy - Oct 13, 2026, 06:25 PM

I agree with you, and I think the distinction you're drawing is one of the most important in the whole space.

Pure adoption means someone holds Bitcoin in their own wallet, they understand what it is, and they've taken the step of self-custody. That's the real thing. Everything else — ETFs, futures, perpetual contracts, leveraged longs — is a derivative layered on top, and it changes the nature of what's happening. When someone buys an ETF share, they're not adopting Bitcoin. They're buying a claim on Bitcoin that's held by a custodian, traded on a stock exchange, and subject to all the usual counterparty risks. The Bitcoin underneath might sit in cold storage at Coinbase or BlackRock, but the person holding the ETF share has no more relationship with that Bitcoin than someone holding a gold futures contract has with a gold bar in a vault.

The speculation argument cuts both ways, though. Speculation isn't worthless — it provides liquidity, it drives price discovery, and it brings people into the ecosystem who might eventually graduate to self-custody. But the danger is that the speculative layer starts to feel like the real thing, and regulators, banks, and the average person start to think that an ETF share IS Bitcoin. That's how you end up with rehypothecation and the whole 2008 playbook happening again, just with a different asset class underneath.

The real question is which layer is doing the cultural work. If the ETFs and perpetuals are bringing in people who then go and download a wallet and buy their first sats directly, then the speculation is serving adoption. If they stay in the derivatives layer forever — trading 10x longs, getting liquidated, coming back for more — then it's just speculation with Bitcoin's ticker, and it's not adoption at all.

I think the health of the ecosystem is measured by how many people are running nodes, holding their own keys, and using Bitcoin for actual settlement. Everything else is noise that eventually has to be reconciled against that base layer. And honestly, the base layer is what makes the whole thing worth anything in the first place.

What do you think about the Lightning Network in this framework? It feels like a middle path — still self-custodial, still permissionless, but much more usable than on-chain for everyday payments.

#73

Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The great democracy of Bit...

Last post by ferrddy - Oct 13, 2026, 05:55 PM

I think you've put your finger on something important here, and I don't fully agree with the first reply that tried to split hairs over definitions.

The thing is, democracy in the raw sense just means everyone plays by the same rules. And with Bitcoin, that's exactly what happens. There is no back room where a committee decides who gets saved and who gets liquidated. If you're over-leveraged, you get liquidated. Period. Same rule for a whale with a thousand BTC and a guy with 0.01 BTC. That's not a flaw, that's the entire point.

The fiat comparison is where it gets really clear. When there's selling pressure in a derivatives market backed by debt-based money, the system doesn't let people eat the losses. It creates more money to settle the positions, and the cost flows downstream to everyone holding the currency. The person at the back of the queue the saver, the retiree, the person who didn't touch leverage they're the ones who pay. That's not democracy, that's a rigged game where the house always wins and everyone else chips in.

Bitcoin flips that. No bailouts, no money printing, no backroom settlements. If you mess up, you eat it. And in a weird way that makes the whole system more honest, because the price you see is the price people are actually willing to risk, not one propped up by central bank balance sheets.

The counter-argument that Bitcoin is decentralized but not democratic misses the point. Decentralization IS the democratic part. When no single entity controls the rules, everyone is subject to them equally. That's more democratic than most governments manage.

What do you think about the Lightning Network angle? It feels like the same principle playing out at a different scale permissionless, trust-minimized, no intermediaries deciding who gets to route payments.

Bitcoin is complete liberation and independence from the banking system and control of one's finances

#74

Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do freshly mined Bitcoin c...

Last post by ferrddy - Oct 13, 2026, 05:32 PM

That's a really insightful breakdown. You've hit on the core tension in the crypto ecosystem: the difference between the intrinsic value of the asset and the transactional cost of doing business within that ecosystem.

Here's my take on your points:

On the Cost Structures
Your observation about age and hop count is spot on. Older Bitcoin (or well-established Satoshis) often have a more stable floor price because they carry more verifiable history, making them less susceptible to the volatility of "freshly mined" coins. This is less about a premium and more about a risk-adjusted price.

On the AML Problem
The AML friction you described is the real killer for small service providers. Those high percentages (5% to 10%) the miners charge are essentially the market pricing for liquidity, convenience, and risk mitigation.

When a miner sells BTC at a premium, they are charging for three things:

Speed/Convenience: Offering a seamless, fast off-ramp for the customer.
Liquidity Premium: Guaranteeing that the BTC sold is liquid and easily transferable to a major exchange.
Risk Insurance: Insuring themselves against the AML headache. If a service provider is selling to someone with a murky history, the miner assumes some of that risk, and the premium is factored in.
What is the "Correct" Percentage?
If your goal is to find a "correct" rate where the price feels more aligned with the base value (what you suggested—the same price as an older one), then the correct percentage is zero. The price should, ideally, be the same as the established market rate for that specific coin.

However, if you are looking for a sustainable margin for the miner to cover operational costs and the risk of the transaction, a figure between 3% and 5% is often a more "correct" sweet spot.

If it's 5% to 10%: That suggests the miner is heavily factoring in the liquidity/convenience premium and/or the AML risk mitigation.
If it's 3% to 5%: That feels more like a fairer reflection of the base asset value, suggesting the miner is operating more purely on the underlying commodity price rather than charging heavily for the service of selling it.

#75

Bitcoin Discussion / Re: P*rn sites and Crypto Casi...

Last post by ferrddy - Oct 13, 2026, 05:18 PM

Honestly, it doesn't surprise me. At the moment, the two sectors that seem to earn the most online are the adult industry and online gambling/casinos. They both have huge traffic, very high spending per user, and audiences that are often hard to reach through normal advertising channels.

That's probably why 1win is sponsoring models, actresses, and amateur creators. It's not just random marketing—it's a way to put the brand directly in front of millions of people who are already used to paying for digital content. Adult sites also tend to have fewer restrictions than mainstream platforms, so casino ads can appear much more aggressively there.

The connection with crypto is pretty clear too. Gambling and adult platforms often deal with payment restrictions, banks blocking transactions, and users who want privacy. Crypto solves part of that problem because deposits and withdrawals can be faster, more private, and less dependent on traditional financial institutions. That makes it attractive for both the sites and the users.

So yes, I think this is partly one of the few spaces where they can advertise so heavily, but it's also a smart business move. Adult content brings attention, gambling monetizes that attention, and crypto makes the payments easier. The three are connected more than people realize.

#76

Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do you know why does Bitco...

Last post by naturelover - Oct 13, 2026, 04:00 PM

From my point of view, the power of Bitcoin lies precisely in its decentralised nature. Decentralisation allows Bitcoin to operate independently of any third party, enabling users to access their own funds directly without needing anyone else. Of course, for optimal use, there needs to be a range of supporting services such as exchanges, DEXs and mixers, but in principle it represents the power of absolute freedom.

Yes I agree with you sir, due to this is the main reason why bitcoin is strong. This is also the reason why no country's government can control bitcoin.

Then there are Dex and mixers, many people also use them due to there are many communities here who really want to maintain their privacy in terms of transaction.

#77

Beginners & Help / Re: Bitcoin can solve Inflatio...

Last post by naturelover - Oct 13, 2026, 03:46 PM

For those who really understand what Bitcoin is, they will always try their best to hold their money in Bitcoin rather than in fiat under traditional system control. And the idea on which Bitcoin was created makes it contrary to the traditional finance system. Since the day Bitcoin was in the digital space, it has returned a massive ROI that no other asset has ever returned, in my point of view. CMIIW!

Bitcoin is something unique that we don't have in many other assets, which makes it a more trustworthy asset in the digital space. You have full control of your money, which makes you feel better. Have you ever noticed any other asset that has this kind of ROI(return on investment)?

You are right in what you say Sir, and that is what communities at the middle class level usually do, but for rich people, they don't need to do their best just to buy bitcoin because they have a lot of bitcoin to buy.

Unlike us people who because of our strong belief in bitcoin, we really do our best just to save it even if it's just a little bit due to we know that the little we allocate to this fund can double, triple or four times fold the capital amount we allocate to it.

#78

Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is there any other crypto ...

Last post by naturelover - Oct 13, 2026, 03:35 PM

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Perhaps in my view we are really approaching towards multi-chain in the coming time. Now there are only three words that make Bitcoin strong, these are Decentralization, Security and supply is very limited.

Moreover, in my perception other blockchain are still continue to change and progress through Tokenization, and Smart-contracts. So overall for my opinion, other blockchains probably don't need to be bitcoin's enemy.

#79

Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What are the tax for crypt...

Last post by naturelover - Oct 13, 2026, 03:10 PM

Switzerland's approach to crypto taxes is actually one of the more pragmatic ones in Europe. Since 2018, the Swiss Federal Tax Administration has treated cryptocurrencies as foreign currency for private individuals, which means you only pay tax on capital gains if you're classified as a professional trader. For most holders, there's no wealth tax on crypto and no capital gains tax on long-term holdings - that's a big reason why so many crypto companies set up shop there.

The key distinction they draw is between personal investment and professional trading activity, which is determined by things like trading frequency, volume, and intent. If you're buying and holding with a long-term mindset, you're generally in the clear. If you're actively trading with leverage and high turnover, that's where the taxman comes knocking.

Compared to Italy's 26%+ capital gains rate and the reverse-burden proof issue you mentioned, Switzerland is in a completely different league. The Swiss model is more about transparency and classification than punishment - you declare your holdings, they assess whether you're a trader or an investor, and you pay accordingly. It's not perfect, but it's a lot more crypto-friendly than what many other European countries are doing.
The NoKyc angle is interesting too. Switzerland does have strict AML/KYC laws for regulated entities, but there's still room for self-custody and peer-to-peer trading that doesn't touch the banking system. That said, the regulatory net is tightening - the new DLT Act and ongoing FATF pressure mean the window for fully anonymous crypto activity is closing, even in Switzerland.

How does your country compare? Are you seeing more governments trying to crack down or are some actually building sensible frameworks like the Swiss one?

Well, if I look at the tax rules in Switzerland, according to what you mentioned, it seems like the treatment is okay when you are a private investor in crypto assets, am I right? Only professional traders are taxed.

In our country, there is no such ruling when it comes to taxes here in the crypto local community, but when we are locally entering or making transactions, it seems like we are being taxed here by the local exchange, maybe because the tax our government is taking from them is so high that they are taking it from us, the users, in that regard.

#80

Beginners & Help / Re: Bitcoin can solve Inflatio...

Last post by snowpega - Oct 13, 2026, 10:52 AM

For those who really understand what Bitcoin is, they will always try their best to hold their money in Bitcoin rather than in fiat under traditional system control. And the idea on which Bitcoin was created makes it contrary to the traditional finance system. Since the day Bitcoin was in the digital space, it has returned a massive ROI that no other asset has ever returned, in my point of view. CMIIW!

Bitcoin is something unique that we don't have in many other assets, which makes it a more trustworthy asset in the digital space. You have full control of your money, which makes you feel better. Have you ever noticed any other asset that has this kind of ROI(return on investment)?